16. The history and value of utopian thinking, part 4: the Western philosophical tradition (Plato)

Greg and Mike discuss the utopian ideas of Plato’s Republic, challenging the commonly held notion that he was speaking primarily about morality and instead reading him as a social theorist. Then, building off the centrality of education in Plato’s utopia, they start to imagine what education in a fairer society than our own might look like.

01. First things: The many crises we share

Greg and Big Mike jump right in: the crises we face; the immense scale of the change necessary to avoid a bleak, bleak future; the history of the systems, among them capitalism and socialism, that have brought us to this point.